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"Out in San Diego" (OISD) for June 10-14, 1985

 

June 1985

 

 

This program, carried on KPBS Radio, covered LGBTQ topics. It begins with coverage of the Pride parade and the announcer Denise Nellison's short history of the Stonewall Rebellion. She moves on to the "Front Runners" run and walk and continues with parade floats, protesters, and comments. There are brief quotes from Nicole Murray Ramirez's and Susan Jester's speeches at the rally. At about 7 minutes, the second program begins with Rick Moore as announcer. After a teaser from Jay Sloan, Moore presents an announcement of classes for health-care providers in advance of beginning County testing for AIDS. Next he reports on the investigation by the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) of an airplane that towed a banner with hate speech over the parade route. He then "tours" the Sunday festival, including words from Jay Sloan and unidentified people in booths representing political and religious organizations. At about 14:15 a segment starts about and starring the Great American Yankee Freedom Band (GAY Freedom Band). Again Jay Sloan is heard along with voices and music from the band, and Moore interviews Scott Brom and Ron Rader of the band. At about 21:22 the third broadcast begins with "Gays in the Navy: What Happens When AIDS Enters the Picture." Moore focuses on the story of Danny Obata[?], with words from Navy spokesperson Frank Schluntz and attorney Ted Boomer. (Names were not spelled and may be inaccurate.) At about 27:37 the third segment begins, again on the Navy and AIDS, with more from Danny Obata, and words from Boomer's assistant Kathy Gilbert. Moore signs off with a preview of the next week's program.

Nicole Murray Ramirez; Susan Jester; Denise Nellison; Jay Sloan; Rick Moore; Great American Yankee Freedom Band; Scott Brom; Ron Rader; Danny Obata; Frank Schluntz; Kathy Gilbert; Ted Boomer; OISD; Out in San Diego (radio); Pride Weekend; Stonewall Rebellion; Stonewall riots; Stonewall protests; Parades; Pride parades; LGBTQ rights opposition; Nicole Murray Ramirez; HIV/AIDS; KPBS; AIDS epidemic; LGBTQ pride; Pride festivals; San Diego LGBT Pride; AIDS epidemic

 

 

 

 

 

English

 

Audiotape

00:34:59 minutes

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P150.049M; P150.052M

This is a summary, not a transcript:
00:18 Someone says, "people showing happiness on what they want to do in life. If that's what they want to do, doesn't bother me one bit"
00:25 Host introduces Out in San Diego and what they'll be talking about
00:43 Someone says, "I think it's great. I'm not gay but go for it, you know?"
00:48 Someone else says, "this is pornography in action right here"
00:55 Pride Weekend marks San Diego's celebration of the anniversary of the Stonewall Riots
1:21 San Diego's Pride Weekend began with a Saturday 3 mile run and 1 mile walk
1:30 Someone begins talking with microphone and welcomes/ thanks participants
1:56 Close to 200 athletes and would be athletes participated in the group's largest event to date
2:15 Several comments about the event are made by participants
2:36 Crowd got larger by noon when the parade started
3:13 Fundamentalists had banners/shouts of disapproval
3:34 A plane circled above the parade with a banner saying "repent fag"
4:00 Participants speaks of how great the turnout of the parade was
4:30 Nicole Murray Ramirez and Susan Jester held a rally about how they are Americans as well and they deserve rights
5:17 Those who have died from AIDs were honored
5:30 Susan Jester ended the rally by acknowledging the achievements of the gay and lesbian community
6:28 Tomorrow on the show Rick Moore will talk about Sunday's Festival
6:52 Someone is saying that there have been non-gay participants who have had a fun time
7:00 Announcer talks about AIDS tests and classes that are available
7:78 Federal Aviation Administration has been waving a derogatory banner on a plane that weekend--requests for City Council to investigate
8:49 Tour of the parade begins
9:06 Festival Organizer Jay Sloan comments that they have a larger area this year and in a better location
9:40 Speculates at the variety of booths--Gay Democrats, Gay Republicans, Gay Mormons, etc.
10:58 Talks about the variety of food available at the parade--hot dogs, pizza, shish kabobs, etc.
11:30 Speaks about what you can buy there- jewelry, board games, haircuts, etc.
11:45 Someone at Hugging Booth explains that proceeds go towards AIDS Assistance Foundation
12:15 Many festival booths sold T-shirts with humorous slogans on them
12:40 Talks about the variety of music played at the festival
13:15 Many visitors comment about how great the festival is
14:06 Moore talks about tomorrow and how the Great American Yankee band will be playing
14:15 Someone comments that the music is attracting outsiders' attentions
15:15 Great American Yankee band came from Los Angeles to play at San Diego's parade
15:44 Jay Sloan recognizes the importance of music at the parades
16:28 Ron Rader, the band's drum major, says the number of Gay Pride observances led to the start of the band in late 1978
16:56 Scott Brom, the band's conductor, explains the expenses and the time commitment it takes to be a member of the band
17:35 Rader comments that the gay band is changing minds out there
18:15 The band will have its biggest chance at changing the minds of non-gays when they play at the Fourth of July Celebration in Atlanta, the biggest Fourth of July celebration in America
18:31 Rader says he is looking forward to the experience
19:27 Brom says San Diego is one of the cities targeted by a project called the "Harold Hill Project".
20:35 Individuals who are interested in joining a gay band should leave their name and number with the Lambda Line
21:09 Tomorrow on the show Jeri Dilno will cover the Gay Softball Game
21:27 Danny Obata speaks about AIDS and the pressures in the Navy
21:35 The show will cover gays in the Navy
21:50 Two officers, Obata and Brian Kinney, suffer from AIDS and are being discharged
22:25 Danny Obata noticed discoloration on his skin
22:39 Obata remembers that they kept asking him questions about his illness
23:32 Kathy Gilbert, a paralegal worker for Obata's attorney, comments on homosexual discharge
24:14 Frank Schluntz remarks that Obata's confirmation of homosexuality forced them to follow policy and that homosexuality is unsuitable for the Navy
24:46 Schluntz says "it's a matter of medical ethics" and that the doctor will decide whether or not to reveal homosexuality if it is in best interest of everybody
25:16 Host rebuts the Navy Captain by quoting Section 501-D of the Official Military Rules of Evidence
25:50 Captain Schluntz does not think that navy members will be hesitant to share their medical details to doctors, even though there is no confidentiality confirmed
26:07 Obata's attorney, Ted Boomer, disagrees and says that those in the Navy do not reveal sensitive information to the doctor because there is no confidentiality
26:40 Gilbert states that in San Diego, there is access to free clinics, but sailors stationed across the globe may not have that same access and can be at risk.
27:25 Rick Moore, the host, announces that tomorrow they will be discussing how information on a medical record can discharge him from the service
27:40 Obata comments that he felt he wasted time in the Navy when they didn't care for him
27:55 Rick Moore announces that OISD will continue the story on Obata and having AIDS in the military
28:20 Two navy sailors were discharged not because of AIDS, but because of homosexuality
28:28 Obata was pressured to tell the Navy that he was homosexual
29:05 Once entered into the medical record, homosexuality can be used against you. There is not confidentiality
29:20 Kathy Gilbert explains the process of discharging someone for homosexuality
29:55 Navy officials say that the information in the medical records is not the final test. Frank Schluntz states that "it is evidence not proof."
30:05 Gilbert says that in the process of discharging, there are no rules for evidence like there is in a court.
30:55 Schluntz says that even though they are discharged, they still receive medical benefits.
31:33 Gilbert says that someone who was discharged gets medical care but is denied pension
31:56 Schluntz insists their action against Obata isn't vindictive
32:17 Gilbert argues that they have a terminal illness and the military is dumping them
32:58 Obata says that it does not matter that he is homosexual when he is at war. They only care that he's homosexual when he gets AIDS
34:00 Obata finally agreed and accepted the discharge
34:14 Host announces next week, they will talk about how Obata vows to continue his efforts
34:27 Kinney is fighting his discharge and has a scheduled hearing later that month
34:34 Host states that Monday Jim Stewart will talk to gay fathers and their kids as they observe Father's Day

 

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